Hi Sprocket, Sorry if I sent this twice. I was wondering if you know what Dianne Ogden's cause of death was? I haven't been able to find anything on the internet. If Jamie Floyd is right and there is no evidence against Spector, we are all in trouble. All anyone has to do to get away with murder is shoot someone when no one is looking, wipe the gun down, throw it at the feet of the victim and claim they committed suicide. She is truly ridiculous. I agree with a previous poster, JF never met a guilty person.
I know attorneys will fight for their clients even if they know the client is guilty. They have an obligation to do that. But they still have rules they should follow, and too many don't. I hope you'll share more of it here, AND you're welcome to also pop on over to the Phil Spector InSession board and share info there as well.
Sorry Sprocket - I'm trying to "steal" one of your viewers. LOL With regards to ANONYMOUS PM, Maybe "blacklisted" is the wrong term, but there are many articles written that acknowledge a lot of high profile singing artists that refused to work with Spector OR stopped in the middle of projects with Spector, because he was so difficult to work with and ineffective in accomplishing anything close to what the had hoped he could bring to the table.
Celine Dion was a recent artist who tried and then walked away. Even the lessor known group Starsailor fired Spector. His "Best Bud" John Lennon even refused to have anymore contact with Spector due to his unstable behavior, all the way up until his death. And with regards to what Phil Spector says in "interviews". Please "Former Driver", post a few more comments. Thanks for sharing. Has the jury sent a note to the judge yet for example to tell the court they would like to leave early tomorrow that would be signed by the foreman and therefore tell us who the foreperson is?
Don't forget about the rightess brothers. They had a monster hit with you've lost that lovin feeling and spector was so diffcult to work with that they broke the contract with him and he sued them and won millions of dollars but they didnt care they just wanted to get away from spector. I, like millions of others are waiting for word from you Dear Sprocket. Of course we want to know everything.
I do have a question,,, If guilty, I must assume he will be remanded immediately into the prison system. When he puts on prison garb hopefully brilliant orange jumpsuit does he get to keep his wig? If not, I can't wait for the mug shot! Waiting Patiently In Vancleave Mississippi! Post a Comment. Jackson is putting a huge board up over by the jury with the 14 defense points. I bet this is the board where he is going to knock out each and every one of those points.
The cameraman is setting up right behind me to my left. More press enter the courtroom and set up their laptops in the back row. There was one where Linda Deutsch usually sits and one where Harriet Ryan usually sits.
Their names were written in right below the huge printed letters. I know there is someone in the back row on Twitter, posting short items periodically, but I'm not sure if it's the very tall slender man or one of the other reporters that I have not personally met. Harriet Ryan is here. Her latest story is already up, here.
Over on the defense side of the room, the benches are not packed with supporters like they were on Tuesday for Weinberg's closing arguments. Tawni Tyndall is there, along with Rachelle and Mrs. Harvey with the white hair is in the back row, and there are I think two people sitting behind Rachelle, but I believe one of them must be either a reporter doesn't look like it or a clerk for the defense.
It's a 30's looking dark haired woman in a black skirt suit and she's got a legal pad on her lap. Beside her is a young man I've never seen before. Compare that to the six women friends of Lana Clarkson who are sitting in the second row behind Mrs. Clarkson and her daughter, Fawn. Fidler asks Jackson about how much longer he has. He informs the court he has about 25 minutes. Some people in the courtroom are quite happy about getting 25 minutes of Jackson closing verses 10 minutes.
Weinberg then speaks to Fidler "off the record" even though court is on the record. He's upset that yesterday, just past pm when court usually ends he " The defense had no notice that this this was agreed to. What if our client had an appointment? Jackson requesting to go to pm and she passed it onto the Judge.
She inquired of the jurors if they could stay until pm, and they didn't have any problem with it. She apologizes for any misunderstanding. There are some last jury instructions that still have to be resolved. In instruction , Weinberg wants the word "noise" added in the part where the types of distractions are listed.
Fidler denies the request stating he feels the instruction as written is adequate. Weinberg is objecting to some of the language in the b instruction. He goes on and on and on with his argument about this. Fidler patiently explains to Weinberg that "We've discussed this at length. I totally disagree.
If it's taken out of context, yes, but if you read the paragraph in context it makes perfect sense. The court has to stop for a moment, while the jurors file into the jury room at am.
A few moments after them, Spector enters the courtroom with Rachelle. Rachelle is wearing a stark white suit. It's different than the one with all the zippers on it.
Weinberg then objects to the prosecution "rewriting" their special jury instruction 1. Fidler explains that the instruction, as it was originally written by the defense, "If it doesn't track the other instructions, then it won't be given. Fidler says, "What I'm saying is, in it's present form, I won't give it. The defense will probably call Riordan for advise during the break.
Jackson gets up to speak to the jury. I've only got about a half hour more. Jackson then proceeds to give the jury a long example to "hit home" his point.
There's a strenth Jackson has that few have and that is he a powerful orator. He can draw his audience in when he's showing them an example. You can't help but pay rapt attention to the details of what he is telling you.
Jackson takes the jury back to , when our country was wracked by crisis and a looming world war. During this turbulent time, the country turned to a great American sport, and that was baseball. They were following it with more passion than we do today.
He started the season and for 10 games in a row, he hit safely. Soon, this was big news with Joe DiMaggio never missing a hit in 20 games.
Then it was 40, 45, then 50 games in a row that Joe DiMaggio hit safely. The supermarkets would close during the games and people would listen to the game on their transistor radios, transfixed. It can't happen. Do you just turn off the game because the statistics say it can't happen? Weinberg says yes, turn your radio off. Or do you listen to the game, or watch the pitch? He does this each and every time he's finished explaining why that evidence doesn't "prove" what Weinberg said it proves.
Jackson addresses the next point, 2 Blood on front strap and the grip. He got blood everywhere! He got blood on the door latch, on the door knob and the banister. To assume that he got blood everywhere else but not on the gun is ridiculous. Detective Katz Phil Spector left that print on the gun and the smear on the gun proves it was Phil Spector.
The perjurer. DW: Objection! Di Maio also said He said he only considered the blood on the metal. He said something no one else has ever said before. He's speaking now with quite a bit of emotion. Very seriously.
And that word, perjury is something I've never had to say before to a jury. Weinberg would have you just dismiss that as a mistake. It's around this time, in the packed courtroom I start to have a coughing fit. I'm all the way down on the far left of the second bench row. I can't get up to leave. I'm embarrassed because I'm interrupting Jackson's fantastic argument with my coughing. I don't have any water and I'm looking furiously around me to see if there is anyone I know near by me, that has any, but everyone has their eyes focused on Jackson.
I turn my head into my right shoulder and put my mouth right up against my upper arm and cough into in like that, trying to muffle the sound as much as possible until the fit has passed. The defense desperately needs something, some that shows science. No one ever tested his gun for DNA because it was his gun found in his home.
He took samples to test the blood on the gun. Steve Renteria was interested in the blood that was on that rag. That the diaper that came from his house, he never touched? It was tested for blood. You cannot ; you must not believe that if something is missing it is of great importance. His clothing wasn't tested for GSR. He's got too many guns. If they were so certain there would be no GSR on Spector's clothing, why didn't they test for it?
They had access to the evidence. The reason they didn't test it is because if they did and found GSR, they would say it was meaningless because he has guns all over the house.
Jackson crosses this point off with the red marker. By the way, foreign biological material? That's what blood is. As far as to where it is on the sleeve, number seven is the same as number five. Contusions on the inside of the bottom lips. Exactly the same. That's totally not true. Pena looked at that tongue.
He took samples from it on both sides. On the right, it he determined it was postmortem congestion. If there was no evidence of a struggle, how did the bruises get there? No evidence of a struggle except for the presence of a dead woman in your foyer!
She could not have. He then compares that on his hands to where Mr. Weinberg would have them believe she was indicating. While he's doing this, there are images up on the screen of Jamie Lintemoot indicating where she saw blood and right after that where Fidler indicated for the record that she demonstrated. Jackson crosses off this item on the big display board.
It wouldn't matter where her hands were! She was in a geomorphous cloud. She would have GSR on her ear! If you tested her face, her thighs, you would find GSR. Jackson marks this item off of his display.
The right one ends up on her abdomen. It tells us she could not have been sitting up; that she was in that position when she was shot. He's standing over her, within 2 to three feet of her. Pex stated the broken thumb nail proves Lana Clarkson's thumb was on the trigger. Pex: Where's the nail? If it broke when it was in the house, the Sheriff's crime lab would have found it. They never found it. It's am, and Jackson continues with his closing argument.
Now, all these women have an agenda. Five women who never met were all liars? They got the empty chamber. Loss of control. Phil Spector reaches for a gun. Think about these women. A woman. Dianne Ogden. Loss of Control. Phill Spector reaches for a gun. Melissa Grosvenor. A loss of control. Dorothy Melvin. He reaches for what?
A gun. Stephanie Jennings. February 3rd, Lana Clarkson. She got the bullet. Defense attorney Roger Rosen, who often acted as lead defense attorney after Cutler's early woes, will give the non-scientific portion of the summation, with forensic scientist Linda Kenney-Baden offering the address on the forensic evidence. Cutler had frequently complained to the press about the lack of camaraderie among the defense team. Other lawyers for Spector often inquired about Cutler's schedule from members of the media rather than approach the attorney himself.
It's a thing of the past and I'm not going to discuss it. Both sides rested their cases Monday after the defense called back to the witness stand two friends of Clarkson. Last week, the defense told the judge the women, Punkin Irene Elizabeth Laughlin and Jennifer Hayes-Riedl, would expand on their previous testimony that the actress was severely depressed around the time of her Feb.
The defense said that the women would detail extensive abuse of cocaine and other drugs. But after learning more about the specifics of the women's accounts, Fidler prohibited that testimony.
Hayes-Riedl was permitted to testify that Clarkson called her from a party two weeks before her death and told her that filmmaker Michael Bay had snubbed her. Laughlin was called to explain a Christmas card she mass-mailed to about friends 10 months after Clarkson's death. The motion was denied but the judge said there would be an instruction to clear up the matter. He also suggested that Laughlin coached another witness to say that Clarkson was depressed.
Sign up for THR news straight to your inbox every day. By Associated Press , AP. Related Stories. Nor was there any DNA from Spector on the gun, she said. In her closing argument , Kenney-Baden also attacked the prosecution for portraying Spector as a bad man with a history of threatening women with weapons, while Clarkson was an optimistic woman.
Kenney-Baden dismissed the testimony of five women who described how Spector got drunk and then waved a gun at them.
The prosecution has argued that the death of Clarkson was part of Spector's pattern of threatening women. Why did the government spend so much time trotting them out and discussing incidents from 10, 20, 30 years ago, if indeed they happened? Earlier Friday morning, Kenney-Baden picked up her argument by continuing to raise questions about DeSouza's facility with English. DeSouza, Spector's chauffeur the night Clarkson died, is a star of the prosecution case, telling jurors that he saw Spector leave his house with blood on his hand, carrying a gun and speaking the five words that the prosecution insisted was a confession.
Spector said, "I think I killed somebody," DeSouza testified, describing the aftermath of a night of partying that began Feb.